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Catari Taga
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Posted - 2010.05.17 15:48:00 -
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Thanks, appreciated.
One thing that immediately strikes me as missing is is /corp/UpcomingCalendarEvents.xml.aspx, would be something to use for a corp website if the calendar was going to be used.
On <combaSettings> I would have thought you could have added <useStandingsFrom ...> as an additional child rather than a parent in order to not break compatibility with existing tools, but I'm not particularly fussed about it, just noting it.
Missing are the APIs that provide the information on the EVEGate website it will get crawled for (current corp, employment history, possibly corp memberlists).
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Posted - 2010.05.17 16:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Ix Forres
On the topic of EVE mail, what is CCP's official stance on EVE Gate sc ra pers (bloody spam filter) and automation tools given that you are powerless to stop them?
I trolled them into this statement in another thread:
Originally by: CCP Karuck
Crawling EVE Gate is forbidden as part of our soon to be updated Terms of Service, and can be a basis for an account ban. Remember that everything you do on EVE Gate you do logged in as your account.
You should be using the API when writing your tools, and if there is functionality on EVE Gate that is not on the API then that's something we will consider adding.
I'm not sure what you are asking about HTTP BASIC unless it's a jibe at the IGB which does not support it (well the UI does not), lol.
Agreed on your other points of course, but well...
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Posted - 2010.05.17 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Catari Taga on 17/05/2010 17:32:19
Originally by: Ix Forres
The HTTP BASIC thing was just in terms of adding a non-eve-username-and-password (UID/API key as user/pass on BASIC) for logging into EVE Gate programmatically but looks like that's off the cards anyway. Poor explanation on my side in any case. Building a crawler that simulates human behavior isn't exactly complicated, and I fail to see how CCP plans to catch people, but hey, I'm sure CCP knows what they're doing.
No, the logon is pretty trivial, in addition to the user/pass you also need to set the default character and then you are free to grab whatever info you want, which is conveniently provided in direct access links (shame you can't go by characterID though, you need to go by name).
"Catching" spiders can be done just by the number of profiles accessed I suppose, but I have an on-demand corp membership and employment history pull integrated into some other tools of mine and that should be pretty much indistinguishable from normal behaviour (might have to reevaluate them after the announced terms of service change maybe). For crawling the site large scale someone so inclined would use trials from another IP anyway.
edit for CCP Karuck: Obviously we would prefer to use an API for this if it was available.
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Will the old standings API continue to work, or is it fully replaced with this?
Will continue to work because standings towards you are not going to be in the contacts API.
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Posted - 2010.05.17 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ariane VoxDei
Or it will lead to a complete abandonment of contactlists and ingame mail - why use those if it leaves you completely exposed to FOE and friend alike.
It's been obvious since the start of evegate that you cannot use the contacts list any more if you are worried about security (or can't live without folders) so why cry now in this thread? Everbody with +10 standings will be able to see your contacts list anyway so CCP allowing people holding your limited API - i.e. holding a higher level of access - to see it too only makes sense in that context. For see same reason you will not be getting EVEgate opt in because noone would actually opt in if they had the choice.
Accept the new reality and deal with it. CCP wants this.
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Posted - 2010.05.18 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
Completely avoiding off topic questions for now.
I was going to ask some questions regarding the contact list being on the limited key but I took me longer to type it up than for CCP Bella Bee to convince me of it still being useful on the full access alone.
Contacts API will require the full key.
thanks CCP Bella Bee
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Originally by: Zeke Mobius
I swear the catholic church was faster at admitting the earth was round than CCP at fixing stuff.
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